I see poor Thani has some angst about his thread being derailed. Not really thoughâ€¦ still along the same concepts of the â€œThere is No Godâ€ rail. Anywayâ€¦.
Because of my long absence, I wonâ€™t go back and respond to EVERYTHING but I do have a couple nuggets to add and clarify.
(human-selected evolution of numerous plants and animals: peas, dogs, wheat, grass, hay, cattle, sheep, turnips, carrots, potatoes, the list goes on)
what? I donâ€™t even know what to begin to google to see what youâ€™re talking about with human-selected evolution. Perhaps maybe â€œhuman-selected evolutionâ€. LoLâ€¦ Iâ€™ll google that later I suppose.
Paul, I am guessing you mean AiG (answers in Genesis) as opposed to EiG. There has been several speculations about the light being created by the stars.
So a creationist would rather have God:
lying, bending time - but not bending time (or contributing to more of the lying), moving earth/etc, setting up our solar system exactly but none of the others,
lying? No bending time? No Moving earth? What? Not setting up other than our solar system? I donâ€™t believe that.
Rather then believe that:
God created all matter (big bang), gave it rules by which to build itself in a timely manner (physics / quantum mech), and so built everything over time, and applied everything on a universal level.
I donâ€™t see why God would have created a Big Bang other than he spoke and BANG, it was. Hehe.. A creationist believes the accounts in the Bible for how the world was created rather than believe there was a big bang and long periods of time, etc. since it doesnâ€™t say that in Genesis. Keep in mind, Iâ€™m not arguing the point; just telling you what creationists believe.
But surely you've put more thought behind it? Like "I am /also/ doing this because it helps the church out".
Yes. Giving 10% of your income as tithe to the church is a commandment. Giving above and beyond that is an offering to "help the church out".
Eye for eye is quote from the same bible that says to turn the other cheek, it's so full of contradictions, you can use it to back up anything you want.
When taken out of context, it does appear to be a contradiction. In one part of the Bible, it says it was morning and another part it says it was night. Goofy example but still, different times and different situations. If you want to continue the contradiction part of the discussion, I will be glad to read the sections of the Bible that you are referring to and let you know what was being talked about.
The "Mayan Calendar" has nothing to do with it other then a dating system.
It's like me saying "OH MY, THE WORLD WILL END DEC 31ST 2009!!" simply because I have a calendar which has "Dec29-Dec30-Dec31-END OF YEAR".
That was almost exactly what my response was going to be. I was going to use months instead of days saying that December is here, I guess itâ€™s the end of time.
Redsun, I was almost sure you were going to quote the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy about the Super Computer Deep Thought who gave the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything.